E. Jean Carroll on Defamatory Trump, and Rob Marshall on “The Little Mermaid”

Carroll and her lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, on their next move against Donald Trump’s campaign of defamation. Plus, the director of Disney’s new film on bringing the mermaid to life.
An illustration of the journalist E. Jean Carroll with Trump behind her.
Illustration by Golden Cosmos

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No sooner was a decision announced that Donald Trump was liable for defamation against E. Jean Carroll than the former President re-defamed her live on CNN. E. Jean Carroll has now filed an amended complaint, in a separate suit, based on Trump’s continued barrage. David Remnick asks Carroll and her lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, whether anything can make Trump stop. Plus, Rob Marshall, the director of Disney’s new version of “The Little Mermaid,” talks with Naomi Fry about the challenges of making the film, including racist carping about the casting of a Black mermaid: “It was never, Let’s do a woke version of ‘Little Mermaid,’ ” Marshall says. And, with the Disney-hater-in-chief Ron DeSantis finally announcing his campaign for the Presidency, the reporter Dexter Filkins discusses his rise to power in Florida.

E. Jean Carroll and Roberta Kaplan on Defamatory Trump

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The writer, sexually abused and defamed by Donald Trump, fights back against his continued statements, asking for more damages. But can anything stop Trump’s campaign to malign her?


The Director Rob Marshall on Halle Bailey as the Little Mermaid

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Marshall talks with Naomi Fry about his live-action remake of the Disney classic, and the right-wing backlash against the casting of a Black woman as Princess Ariel.


Dexter Filkins on the Rise of Ron DeSantis

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The Presidential primary has become more complicated as the Florida governor—widely seen as the strongest G.O.P. contender against Donald Trump—finally declares his candidacy.


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